Working paper.
Mandarin-only micro-entry from Tritransitive Group A packaging on deduct (WH_Movement_Denominations_Deduct §7.1; Negative_Questions_Deduct §13.1), sharing √DEDUCT geometry with Lexical_Entry_Deduct_Argument_Structure and the live English / Japanese / Romance twins. Constructed diagnostics diagnose 把 of the whole MeasureP, 从 Domain, 因/因为 Reason, Voice filter, and the FROM / TO dual with creditFIN; they are not spontaneous-speech citations. Navajo HANDLE companions in the same DOCX are pointed only — this tick does not deepen them.
Constructed examples.
Frames below are packaging hypotheses aligned with Group A notes (“Chinese 把 fronts the whole QP under 没 / 没有. 从 marks Domain. 因为 / 为了 marks Reason. The dungeon restrictor stays inside the Domain DP”). Decrement-true of ⟨n,U⟩ from Domain is e2. Destruction, house-credit, and actual guilt are not entailed. Do not fake elicitation. Scout-leaning companions (减扣, relative productivity of bare 扣 vs 扣除) are flagged.
Beyond Index 2.
Index 2 does not list
deduct, and it does not list Mandarin under Payment. Like
sell · Mandarin,
chargeFEE · Mandarin, and
creditFIN · Mandarin, this root sits
Beyond Index 2 as a Group A measuring companion. Keep Domain as
从 oblique FROM; do not collapse to
收 /
收费’s
向-Payer FEE cloth.
Scout / deferred.
Navajo classificatory-stem packaging shares the Groups A–D sections but is not a micro-entry this tick. Relative productivity of bare 扣 vs compound 扣除 / 扣减, and of payroll 扣工资 vs tax 扣除, is scout-leaning where the extract lists forms without ranking them. No fake elicitation.
Hierarchy
Same inventory as English deduct. Not five-place. Not four sisters of one V. Surface count can name the game, 0.00368, ETH, every player in the dungeon, and the chat-rule violation — but Amount and Denomination share one Case object, Domain is one 从-DP, and Reason is high / outer.
Intended labeling (shared English metalanguage · Parse B)
√DEDUCT / DECREMENT + VoiceA(Agent-ish) + MeasureP ⟨Amount, Denom⟩ + ApplFROM(Domain) · hierarchy Agent-ish > MeasureP > Domain (> outer Reason)
Voice introduces Agent-ish (system / institutional Initiator; partial Proto-Agent). MeasureP ⟨n, U⟩ is Incremental Theme of the decrement — one ACC object, often 把-fronted as a whole QP. Low Appl_FROM introduces Domain as a set (or quantified DP); Mandarin spells the default with 从 / 从…中 / 在…上. Optional high Reason is JUSTIFIED_BY (因 / 因为), not Purpose (earmark), not Content (bet), not Consideration (chargeFEE). Packaging (扣, 扣除) keeps one decrement geometry.
0.00368 ETH = one MeasureP. Orthography / measure-word morphology is not extra arity. Amount and Denomination are both inner arguments of that object. Composition is V(QP), not V(n)(U). Hom(e, ⟨n,U⟩): the decrement is measured by degree n on scale U. 把 takes the whole QP; it does not split Amount from unit.
Working hierarchy: Agent-ish > MeasureP ⟨n,U⟩把 / post-V > Domain从 > Reason因 / 因为. What Group A Mandarin changes is Case cloth (把, 从, 因). What it does not change is the inventory. Weather still fails Agent-ish. Settlement / destruction is still not entailed. Domain never promotes to a second bare Theme the way English DOC would, and never to FEE’s 向-Payer.
Mandarin frames · Case clothes
Mandarin puts the QP in ACC (often 把-fronted as a whole), Domain in 从 / 从…中 / 在…上, Reason in 因 / 因为. There is no English-style DOC of MeasureP+Domain as two bare Themes. Primary lemmas for the page: 扣 / 扣除. Companions wear the same FROM geometry — document them; do not invent a sense split.
- ✓ 游戏从地牢里的每个玩家那里扣了 0.00368 ETH,因为违反了聊天规则。 canonical · 从 Domain · ACC MeasureP · 因为 Reason · Parse B
- ✓ 游戏把 0.00368 ETH 从每个玩家那里扣了。 把 whole QP · 从 Domain
- ✓ 游戏从每个玩家那里扣除了 0.00368 ETH。 扣除 companion · same FROM cloth
- ✓ 公司从他的工资里扣了钱。 payroll hinge · 扣工资 family
- ✓ 交易所从试图加杠杆的用户那里扣了什么。 WH §7.1 lead · relative inside 从-DP
- ✓ 从报税单上扣除了开支。 tax / arithmetic companion
- ✓ 在账户上扣了 0.001 ETH。 在…上 Domain packing · scout vs 从 default
- ✓ Companion scout: 扣减了手续费。 扣减 · same FROM cloth · scout ranking
- ? Companion scout: 减扣了保证金。 减扣 scout · listed without ranking
- ? 游戏扣了 ETH。 bare U · type / activity · marked
- * 游戏扣了 0.00368。 unit unbound
- * 地牢里的每个玩家被扣了 0.00368 ETH。 as Domain→Theme promote Domain ≠ ACC Theme · FEE cloth is 收/罚款
- * 游戏把每个玩家扣了 0.00368 ETH。 no DOC · 把 fronts MeasureP not Domain+MeasureP as two Themes
- * 游戏给每个玩家扣了 0.00368 ETH。 as TO-increment 给 = credit FIN polarity · not FROM default
- * 天气从每个玩家那里扣了 0.00368 ETH。 weather / inanimate ≠ Agent-ish
Canonical Group A string (WH §7.1 · constructed)
✓ 交易所从试图加杠杆的用户那里扣了什么。
Bare 什么 takes the object. Default answers are 0.001 个 ETH / 十五美元 / 一笔强平费. 扣 USDC is a type reading. 用什么扣 / 扣的是什么币 recode U. 把 fronts the whole QP, not 什么 minus the measure word. The relative 试图加杠杆的用户 stays inside the 从-DP.
Passive-ish · MeasureP vs Domain vs Reason
✓ 0.00368 ETH 被从每个玩家那里扣了。 QP promotes as a whole
* 0.00368 被扣了 ETH。 Amount ≠ separate promote
* 每个玩家被扣了 0.00368 ETH。 as Domain ACC Domain stays 从-DP · FEE promote is 收/罚款
* 违反聊天规则被扣了 0.00368 ETH。 Reason ≠ object
Companions · one FROM geometry · FEE / FIN contrast
✓ 扣 / 扣除 primary · commercial / tax / ledger hinge
? 扣减 / 减扣 companion scout · same FROM cloth · no fake ranking
✓ 扣工资 payroll packaging · Domain = wage / paycheck
✓ 收 / 收费 chargeFEE · 向-Payer · contrast only · live at charge-fee-zh.html
✓ 入账 / 打入 creditFIN · TO dual · contrast polarity
Parse A distractor (not intended for canonical)
? 从每个玩家那里,在地牢里,… comma Loc = extra verbal PP
✓ 从地牢里的每个玩家那里 one Domain DP · restrictor internal
The dungeon restrictor stays inside the Domain DP (地牢里的每个玩家). 把 does not front the restrictor without the noun (Negative_Questions_Deduct §13.1).
MeasureP WH / NegQ · denomination diagnostics
WH forces Amount ≠ Denomination inside one Case object. Verbal WH sees the MeasureP under ACC / 把, not unit and degree as two objects of deduct. Same MeasureP pattern as English / Japanese / Romance deduct — here Domain stays a selected 从-DP, and Reason stays 因 / 因为.
- ✓ 游戏从每个玩家那里扣了多少? unit bound
- ✓ 游戏从每个玩家那里扣了多少 ETH?
- ✓ 把多少 ETH 从每个玩家那里扣了? whole MeasureP · 把-frame
- ✓ 用什么扣 / 扣的是什么币? U recoding · §7.1
- ✓ 交易所从试图加杠杆的用户那里扣了什么? bare 什么 · object hijack · §7.1
- * 把多少扣了 ETH? LBC · U stranded
- * 把什么扣了 0.001? LBC · stranded n
- ✓ 从谁 / 从哪些玩家那里扣了 0.00368 ETH? WH = Domain
- ✓ 为什么扣了 0.00368 ETH? Reason
- * 把谁扣了 0.00368 ETH? as Domain-ACC Domain needs 从 · FEE promote is 收
- ✓ 游戏没从每个玩家那里扣 0.00368 ETH 吗? NegQ · MeasureP cheap associate
- ✓ 没把 0.00368 ETH 从每个玩家那里扣吗? NegQ · 没 over 把-MeasureP · §13.1
Bare 扣了什么? — four answer types (shared with English)
QP (default): 0.001 ETH. / 十五美元. — whole MeasureP.
KIND: 一笔强平费. / 手续费. — sortal N of the levy, not U of ⟨n,U⟩.
U (marked): Bitcoin. / USDC. / ETH. — unit-name with silent n; needs a currency menu. Not the first reading.
MASS: 钱. / 流动性. / 抵押品. — value-mass hypernym; legal object; not a denomination. Wrong-sort mass stays out.
Superiority ranks Agent-ish > MeasureP > Domain > Reason. Amount and Denomination never compete as two verbal WH-items. Cheap NegQ association tracks the Case object: MeasureP under 没 / 没有 over the 把-frame. Reason-因为 does not lift a second unit the way charge’s Consideration-为 can.
Geometry · 扣 ≠ 收 ≠ 入账 ≠ 赌 ≠ 付 ≠ 卖
In 游戏从帕特那里扣了 0.00368 ETH, Pat is Domain of loss and stays inside a 从-DP. In 商店向帕特收了二十块, Pat is Payer and wears 向 beside MeasureP. Shared FROM_SET arithmetic; different Case cloth.
- ≠ chargeFEE / 收 / 收费 / fine. Shared FROM_SET + MeasureP Hom. Split: deduct keeps Domain as 从-DP; chargeFEE / fine promote Payer to 向 / silent Source beside MeasureP. *每个玩家被扣了 0.00368 ETH as Domain promote — use 收 / 罚款. Live twin: charge-fee-zh.html.
- ≠ creditFIN / 入账 / 打入. Shared MeasureP. Opposite polarity: deduct = FROM_SET decrement (从); creditFIN = TO_SET increment (给/向/到-Account / 把-MeasureP). creditFIN has Account clothes; Mandarin deduct has no productive 给-cloth dual (*给每个玩家扣了 0.00368 ETH as TO). Live twin: credit-fin-zh.html.
- ≠ bet / 赌 / dǔ. Shared MeasureP (Stake vs decrement). Split: bet is 1+3 (Stake + Content + optional Platform); no FROM Domain of loss at e-time. Deduct has no selected Proposition. Index 2 ZH Risk cell is this neighbor — not a translation of deduct.
- ≠ earmark / allocateGOAL. Shared MeasureP packaging available. Split: earmark’s Purpose vs deduct’s high JUSTIFIED_BY Reason. No FROM-loss on earmark / allocate.
- ≠ payGIVE / 付 · ≠ 卖 / sell. Pay writes MeasureP TO a Recipient (Appl_HAVE). Sell: Recipient HAS goods; Price stays inside 以/用/多少钱. Deduct: money/value is the ACC / 把 MeasureP of the decrement; 因为违反了… is Reason, not Price / Consideration.
- ≠ subtract / 减去 / 减. Same MeasureP family against a number/account Domain; Reason usually absent. Packaging cousins, not a fifth GF.
- Four “grounds.” Deduct’s 因为违反了… = Reason / ground (high). chargeFEE’s 为 = Consideration. Sell’s 多少钱 = Price. Earmark / allocate keep Purpose readings. Keep them apart.
- Decrement-true is e2. A follow-up that denies destruction, house-credit, or actual guilt does not deny the deduct event. Guilt-true is not entailed (Reason is JUSTIFIED_BY, not factive Content).
Shells, ApplP, and Case
Base tree (Mandarin · Parse B · Larson-shell sketch)
VoiceP [ 游戏
(ReasonP) [ 因为 [ 违反了聊天规则 ] ]
ApplP_FROM [ 从 [ 地牢里的每个玩家 ]
VP [ √DEDUCT / √扣 [ 把 [ MeasureP [ Amount 0.00368 ] [ N ETH ] ] ] ]
]
Packaging (same geometry):
扣 / 扣除 (primary)
扣减 / 减扣 (companions scout)
扣工资 (payroll Domain packaging)
— Domain stays 从 / 从…中 / 在…上; Reason stays 因 / 因为
— 收 / 收费 = FEE contrast (向-Payer), not √DEDUCT primary
Voice introduces Agent-ish. Appl_FROM introduces Domain as a set. MeasureP sits as Incremental Theme of the decrement — often 把-fronted as a whole. Reason attaches above the inner FROM. There is no Recipient HAVE shell and no ACC promotion of Domain into a second Theme. Putting one in is how the fine / 收 cloth is written — a different root packaging, not √DEDUCT growing a second object.
Mandarin assigns ACC / 把 to the MeasureP only (default). Domain stays oblique (从). Reason stays a 因/因为-clause / PP. No reverse DOC. Passive-ish promotes the Measure QP as a whole — never Amount alone, never U alone, never Domain into subject (*每个玩家被扣了… as Domain ACC), never Reason.
Proto-roles are shell-local. Agent-ish is a partial Proto-Agent (game, payroll, fisc, auto-mod, protocol — institutional cause, not required volition). Domain members are Proto-Source after 每个 unfolds; the verbal argument is the bundled set. MeasureP is Incremental Theme; Hom on ⟨n,U⟩. Denomination is not a fifth theta role.
Neo-Davidsonian sketch (shared with English entry §9)
∃e [ DECREMENT(e)
∧ INIT(e, 游戏)
∧ DEGREE(e, 0.00368) ∧ UNIT(e, ETH)
∧ FROM_SET(e, D) ∧ Hom(e, ⟨0.00368, ETH⟩)
∧ JUSTIFIED_BY(e, 违反聊天规则) ]
With 每个 inside Domain: ∀x [玩家(x) ∧ 在(x, 地牢) → ∃e … FROM(e, x) …]. The dungeon appears only in the restrictor of D. No LOCATION(e, dungeon) conjunct is required under Parse B. e2: each atomic member of Domain ¬HAS ⟨n,U⟩. Destruction / house-credit is a later sequel, not e2.
Voice filter
✓ 谁从每个玩家那里扣了 0.00368 ETH?
✓ 游戏 / 合约 / 协议从每个玩家那里扣了 … institutional Initiator
* 天气从每个玩家那里扣了 0.00368 ETH。 not an Allocator
✓ 0.00368 ETH 被游戏从每个玩家那里扣了。
Milder than blame / creditMERIT’s Judge filter; same cell as creditFIN’s Allocator-ish filter. Players are Domain members, not Causees of an inner agentive verb.
Type A · 让 wrap
✓ 上司没让游戏从每个玩家那里扣 0.00368 ETH 吗? outer Neg denies causing · causee ≠ Domain
* 上司没让天气从每个玩家那里扣 0.00368 ETH 吗? weather still not inner Agent-ish
Chinese 让 + RVC can wrap the inner result; the inner MeasureP remains one object and the inner Domain remains FROM (Negative_Questions_Deduct §13.1 / §14). Deduct does not grow a causative by itself.
Underivables (Mandarin deduct)
- * 游戏从每个玩家那里扣了 0.00368。 unit unbound
- * 0.00368 被扣了 ETH。 Amount ≠ separate passive
- * ETH 被扣了 0.00368。 U ≠ separate passive
- * 每个玩家被扣了 0.00368 ETH。 as Domain ACC Domain ≠ ACC Theme
- * 违反聊天规则被扣了 0.00368 ETH。 Reason ≠ object
- * 把多少扣了 ETH? LBC · U stranded
- * 把什么扣了 0.001? LBC · stranded n
- * 把谁扣了 0.00368 ETH? as Domain-ACC Domain needs 从
- * 游戏把每个玩家扣了 0.00368 ETH。 no DOC of Domain+MeasureP
- * 游戏给每个玩家扣了 0.00368 ETH。 as TO-increment 给 ≠ FROM default
- * 天气从每个玩家那里扣了 0.00368 ETH。 Voice filter
- * 交易所从用户那里扣了水。 wrong-sort mass
- ✓ institution / contract as Agent-ish: 智能合约从用户那里扣了 0.001 ETH。 Initiator fine
Group A packaging · this tick Mandarin closes EN+JA+Romance+ZH deduct
Group A (English, Japanese, Chinese, Navajo) is the packaging contrast set already used for WH and NegQ on deduct (§7.1 / §13.1). Same hierarchy as English deduct; different host of MeasureP/Domain Case. This tick is Mandarin deduct only — and it finishes the EN+JA+Romance+ZH deduct line (EN+JA+ES+FR+IT+ZH). English deduct.html, Japanese deduct-ja.html, Spanish deduct-es.html, French deduct-fr.html, and Italian deduct-it.html are the live FROM twins. Mandarin creditFIN is the live TO dual — keep the polarity split. Navajo HANDLE packaging remains deferred — do not invent depth this tick.
Open items
- English / Japanese / Romance twins. deduct.html, deduct-ja.html, deduct-es.html, deduct-fr.html, and deduct-it.html are live. Keep Domain as from/kara/de/desde/à partir de/da/从; do not collapse to chargeFEE.
- FEE overlap on 收 / 收费. Already live as chargeFEE · Mandarin. Keep √DEDUCT on 扣 / 扣除; Domain stays oblique FROM.
- 在…上 vs 从 Domain ranking. Both productive FROM cloths in ledger talk; relative preference by register — open speaker check.
- 扣 vs 扣除 / 扣减 / 减扣 productivity. Bare vs compound / payroll vs tax ranking needs controlled elicitation — flagged scout-leaning, not closed. Do not invent a sense split.
- Polish GEN-neg on odjąć / potrącić — GEN on the QP, not a stranded unit. Companion elicitation (Group C).
- Outer CAUSE (让). Site on the making vs on the decrement; Domain never becomes Causee Case under √DEDUCT’s Mandarin cloth.
- Navajo. HANDLE packaging. Deferred with Group A notes — lit still thin for commercial sell + MeasureP_Price and for deduct stem depth.
Corpus filenames
Primary extracts for this micro-entry are Group A Chinese packaging notes in the deduct WH and NegQ papers (§7.1 / §13.1). Geometry is shared with the English lexical entry. Increment dual: Lexical_Entry_Credit_Argument_Structure / live credit-fin-zh.html. FEE contrast: live charge-fee-zh.html. Text extracts under /tmp/deduct_extracts/; DOCX originals under the Tritransitive lit tree. Chat extract: lit/grok-tritransitive/chats/16-wh-movement-denominations-in-deduct.md.
- WH_Movement_Denominations_Deduct.docx primary · §7.1 Group A Chinese · 交易所从试图加杠杆的用户那里扣了什么 · 把 whole QP · 什么币
- Negative_Questions_Deduct.docx primary · §13.1 Group A · 把 fronts whole QP under 没/没有 · 从 Domain · 因为/为了 Reason · 地牢里的每个玩家
- Lexical_Entry_Deduct_Argument_Structure.docx shared geometry · Parse B · MeasureP · Appl_FROM
- Lexical_Entry_Credit_Argument_Structure.docx TO dual · ledger increment mirror
- INDEX2_Verbs.txt ZH Payment cell absent · Risk / dǔ only — deduct not Index 2
Series placement: Mandarin sense×language twin of English deduct EN micro-entry, Japanese deduct JA micro-entry, Spanish deduct ES micro-entry, French deduct FR micro-entry, and Italian deduct IT micro-entry. Feeds measuring companions Beyond Index 2 and the decrement cell next to creditFIN / chargeFEE / bet / earmark. Sister of live creditFIN · Mandarin — keep the FROM/TO polarity split. Closes EN+JA+Romance+ZH deduct. Does not invent NV elicitation. Speculation flagged.