Working paper. Italian-only micro-entry closing the Group B Romance deduct line from WH_Movement_Denominations_Deduct §7.2 and Negative_Questions_Deduct §13.2, sharing √DEDUCT geometry with Lexical_Entry_Deduct_Argument_Structure and the live English / Japanese / Spanish / French twins. Constructed diagnostics diagnose ACC MeasureP, da/da parte di/a partire da Domain, per-Reason, quantity clitic ne, Voice filter, and the FROM / TO dual with creditFIN; they are not spontaneous-speech citations. FEE-overlap warning: surface addebitare is already live as chargeFEE · Italian (DAT Payer + ACC MeasureP) — keep Domain as oblique FROM on detrarre; do not collapse to FEE cloth.
Constructed examples. Frames below are packaging hypotheses aligned with Group B notes (“Spanish / French / Italian: quantity clitic en / ne under Neg tracks the MeasureP … Domain is de / à partir de, not a second object … Reason is pour / por / per”) and the WH map (“Cosa gli ha addebitato / detratto l’exchange? · in che valuta”). Decrement-true of ⟨n,U⟩ from Domain is e2. Destruction, house-credit, and actual guilt are not entailed. Do not fake elicitation. Scout-leaning DAT Affectee packing is flagged where the WH paper shows gli / a beside da-Domain — and where the same surface string co-lists addebitare (FEE) next to detrarre.
Beyond Index 2. Index 2 does not list deduct, and Italian Payment cites pagare, bonificare, trasferire — not detrarre / prelevare. Like chargeFEE · Italian and creditFIN · Italian, this root sits Beyond Index 2 as a Group B measuring companion. Keep Domain as da/da parte di/a partire da oblique FROM; do not collapse to addebitare / far pagare’s DAT Payer / ACC MeasureP FEE cloth.
Scout / deferred · FEE overlap. Commercial / payroll companions prelevare / trattenere are scout-leaning where withholding talk is natural; document honestly — no fake elicitation ranking. Mandarin 扣 / 扣除 and Navajo classificatory-stem packaging share the Groups A–D sections but are not deepened this tick. WH §7.2 co-lists addebitare / detrarre in one Italian string — treat that as surface-form inventory, not as one lemma for √DEDUCT. Relative productivity of tax/logic detrarre vs payroll prelevare/trattenere, and of DAT Affectee doubling beside da-Domain, remains open.

Hierarchy

Same inventory as English deduct. Not five-place. Not four sisters of one V. Surface count can name the game, 0,00368, ETH, every player in the dungeon, and the chat-rule violation — but Amount and Denomination share one Case object, Domain is one da/a partire da-PP, and Reason is high / outer.

Intended labeling (shared English metalanguage · Parse B)

√DEDUCT / DECREMENT + VoiceA(Agent-ish) + MeasureP ⟨Amount, Denom⟩ + ApplFROM(Domain)  ·  hierarchy Agent-ish > MeasureP > Domain (> outer Reason)

Voice introduces Agent-ish (system / institutional Initiator; partial Proto-Agent). MeasureP ⟨n, U⟩ is Incremental Theme of the decrement — one ACC object. Low Appl_FROM introduces Domain as a set (or quantified DP); Italian spells the default with da / da parte di / a partire da (align ES de/desde, FR de/à partir de). Optional high Reason is JUSTIFIED_BY (per), not Purpose (earmark), not Content (bet), not Consideration (chargeFEE). Packaging (detrarre; scout companions prelevare / trattenere) keeps one decrement geometry.

0,00368 ETH = one MeasureP. Orthography is not extra arity. Amount and Denomination are both inner arguments of that object. Composition is V(MeasureP), not V(n)(U). Hom(e, ⟨n,U⟩): the decrement is measured by degree n on scale U. Romance quantity clitic ne resumes quantity of the QP — not a unit stranded from its degree, and not Domain.

Working hierarchy: Agent-ish > MeasureP ⟨n,U⟩ > Domain > Reason. What Group B Italian changes is Case cloth (da/a partire da, per, ne). What it does not change is the inventory. Weather still fails Agent-ish. Settlement / destruction is still not entailed. Domain never promotes to ACC / DAT the way chargeFEE / fine promote Payer (addebitare).

Italian frames · Case clothes

Italian puts the QP in ACC, Domain in da / da parte di / a partire da, Reason in per. There is no DOC cloth and no con-cloth dual of creditFIN. Primary lemma for the page: detrarre (tax / logic / arithmetic hinge; WH §7.2 Italian lead). Scout companions prelevare / trattenere may wear the same FROM geometry in commercial / payroll / withholding talk — document both; do not invent a sense split. Surface addebitare is contrast only (FEE).

  1. ✓ Il gioco ha detratto 0,00368 ETH da ogni giocatore nel dungeon per aver violato le regole della chat. canonical · ACC MeasureP · da Domain · per Reason · Parse B
  2. ✓ Il gioco ha detratto 0,00368 ETH da ogni giocatore. Reason omitted
  3. ✓ L’azienda ha prelevato / trattenuto denaro dalla busta paga. value-mass object · payroll hinge · companion scout
  4. ✓ La busta paga ha prelevato / trattenuto denaro / tasse / interessi / collaterale. value-mass · sortal OK · companion scout
  5. ✓ L’exchange ha detratto 0,001 ETH dall’utente che ha tentato di usare la leva. Domain relative rides · WH §7.2
  6. ✓ Hanno detratto 0,00368 ETH da ogni giocatore. detrarre primary · same FROM cloth
  7. ✓ Ha detratto le spese dalla dichiarazione. tax / arithmetic companion
  8. ✓ Non gli hanno detratto 0,00368 ETH? DAT Affectee packing beside Domain · scout vs da-Domain default · do not merge with addebitare FEE
  9. ? Il gioco ha detratto ETH da ogni giocatore. bare U · type / activity · marked
  10. * Il gioco ha detratto 0,00368 da ogni giocatore. unit unbound
  11. * Ogni giocatore nel dungeon è stato detratto 0,00368 ETH. Domain ≠ ACC · use addebitare / far pagare / multare
  12. * Il gioco ha detratto ogni giocatore con 0,00368 ETH. no con-cloth
  13. * Il gioco ha detratto 0,00368 ETH a ogni giocatore. as TO-increment a = credit FIN polarity · not FROM default
  14. * L’exchange ha detratto acqua / sabbia / un consiglio dall’utente. wrong-sort mass
  15. * Il tempo ha detratto 0,00368 ETH da ogni giocatore. weather / inanimate ≠ Agent-ish

Passive · MeasureP vs Domain vs Reason

✓ 0,00368 ETH sono stati detratti da ogni giocatore nel dungeon … QP promotes as a whole

* 0,00368 sono stati detratti ETH da ogni giocatore … Amount ≠ separate promote

* ETH sono stati detratti 0,00368 da ogni giocatore … U ≠ separate promote

* Ogni giocatore nel dungeon è stato detratto 0,00368 ETH … Domain stays da-PP

* Aver violato le regole della chat è stato detratto 0,00368 ETH … Reason ≠ object

✓ Hanno addebitato / fatto pagare / multato 0,00368 ETH a ogni giocatore. chargeFEE / fine: Domain/Payer promoted — contrast

Companions · one FROM geometry · FEE contrast

✓ detrarre primary · tax / logic / arithmetic hinge · WH lead

? prelevare / trattenere commercial / payroll / withholding companion scout · same FROM cloth · no fake ranking

✓ addebitare / far pagare chargeFEE · DAT Payer · contrast only · already live at charge-fee-it.html

✓ accreditare creditFIN · TO dual · contrast polarity

? detrarre a DAT Affectee without da-Domain scout · do not merge with FEE Payer / addebitare

Parse A distractor (not intended for (1))

? da ogni giocatore, nel dungeon, … comma Loc = extra verbal PP

✓ da ogni giocatore nel dungeon one Domain DP · restrictor internal

Romance ci / venue clitics track a venue (Parse A / wrapping), not a Parse B Domain of loss (Negative_Questions_Deduct §13.2).

MeasureP WH / NegQ · denomination diagnostics

WH forces Amount ≠ Denomination inside one Case object. Verbal WH sees the MeasureP under ACC, not unit and degree as two objects of deduct. Same MeasureP pattern as English / Japanese / Spanish / French deduct — here Domain stays a selected da/a partire da-PP (or DAT Affectee packing flagged open), and Reason stays per.

  1. ✓ Quanto ha detratto il gioco da ogni giocatore? unit bound
  2. ✓ Quanti ETH ha detratto il gioco da ogni giocatore?
  3. ✓ Quanto di cosa hanno detratto da ogni giocatore? n and U inside host
  4. ✓ In che / in che valuta glielo hanno detratto? U recoding · §7.2
  5. ✓ Cosa gli ha detratto l’exchange? bare WHAT · object hijack · §7.2 · detrarre primary
  6. ✓ Cosa gli ha addebitato / detratto l’exchange? WH §7.2 surface co-list · addebitare = FEE contrast · detrarre = √DEDUCT
  7. * Cosa ha detratto l’exchange 0,001 dell’utente …? LBC · stranded n
  8. * Quanto ha detratto l’exchange ETH dell’utente? LBC · U stranded
  9. ✓ Da chi / da quali giocatori ha detratto il gioco 0,00368 ETH? WH = Domain
  10. ✓ Perché hanno detratto 0,00368 ETH? Reason
  11. * A chi hanno detratto 0,00368 ETH? as Domain-ACC / FEE cloth Domain needs da/a partire da · FEE promote is addebitare
  12. ✓ Non hanno detratto 0,00368 ETH da ogni giocatore? NegQ · MeasureP cheap associate
  13. ✓ Non ne hanno detratto 0,00368? quantity clitic ne · §13.2
  14. ✓ Non gliene hanno detratto 0,00368? ne / quantity + DAT · Group B cheap associate · Affectee packing

Bare Cosa gli ha detratto? — four answer types (shared with English)

QP (default): 0,001 ETH. / 15 dollari. — whole MeasureP.

KIND: Una commissione di liquidazione. / Il margine isolato. — sortal N of the levy, not U of ⟨n,U⟩.

U (marked): Bitcoin. / USDC. / ETH. — unit-name with silent n; needs a currency menu. Not the first reading.

MASS: Denaro. / Liquidità. / Collaterale. — value-mass hypernym; legal object; not a denomination. Wrong-sort mass stays out.

Superiority ranks Agent-ish > MeasureP > Domain > Reason. Amount and Denomination never compete as two verbal WH-items. Cheap NegQ association tracks the Case object: ACC MeasureP under detrarre. Quantity clitic ne resumes the QP (Romance Group B map); venue clitics track venue, not Domain of loss. Reason-per does not lift a second unit the way charge’s Consideration-per can.

Geometry · detrarre ≠ addebitare ≠ accreditareFIN ≠ scommettere ≠ destinare

In Il gioco ha detratto 0,00368 ETH da Pat, Pat is Domain of loss and stays inside a da-PP. In Il negozio ha addebitato venti euro a Pat, Pat is Payer and wears DAT beside ACC MeasureP. Shared FROM_SET arithmetic; different Case cloth. That is the FEE-overlap cut this tick is written to keep visible.

Shells, ApplP, and Case

Base tree (Italian · Parse B · Larson-shell sketch)

VoiceP  [ il gioco
  (ReasonP)
  ApplP_FROM  [ da  [ ogni giocatore nel dungeon ]
    VP  [ √DEDUCT / √DETRAR-   [ MeasureP  [ Amount 0,00368 ] [ N ETH ] ] ]
  PP_per  [ per  [ aver violato le regole della chat ] ] ]

Packaging (same geometry):
  detrarre (tax / logic / arithmetic hinge)
  prelevare / trattenere (commercial / payroll scout companions)
  — Domain stays da / da parte di / a partire da; Reason stays per
  — addebitare = FEE contrast (DAT Payer), not √DEDUCT primary

Voice introduces Agent-ish. Appl_FROM introduces Domain as a set. MeasureP sits as Incremental Theme of the decrement. Reason attaches above the inner FROM. There is no Recipient HAVE shell and no ACC / DAT promotion of Domain. Putting one in is how the fine / addebitare cloth is written — a different root packaging, not √DEDUCT growing a second object.

Italian assigns ACC to the MeasureP only (default). Domain stays oblique (da/da parte di/a partire da). Reason stays a per-PP. Quantity clitic ne resumes the MeasureP. No reverse DOC. Passive promotes the Measure QP as a whole — never Amount alone, never U alone, never Domain into subject (*Ogni giocatore è stato detratto …), never Reason.

Proto-roles are shell-local. Agent-ish is a partial Proto-Agent (game, payroll, fisc, auto-mod, protocol — institutional cause, not required volition). Domain members are Proto-Source after ogni / tutto unfolds; the verbal argument is the bundled set. MeasureP is Incremental Theme; Hom on ⟨n,U⟩. Denomination is not a fifth theta role.

Neo-Davidsonian sketch (shared with English entry §9)

∃e [ DECREMENT(e)
  ∧ INIT(e, gioco)
  ∧ DEGREE(e, 0.00368) ∧ UNIT(e, ETH)
  ∧ FROM_SET(e, D) ∧ Hom(e, ⟨0.00368, ETH⟩)
  ∧ JUSTIFIED_BY(e, violare_regole_chat) ]

With ogni / tutto inside Domain: ∀x [giocatore(x) ∧ in(x, dungeon) → ∃e … FROM(e, x) …]. The dungeon appears only in the restrictor of D. No LOCATION(e, dungeon) conjunct is required under Parse B. e2: each atomic member of Domain ¬HAS ⟨n,U⟩. Destruction / house-credit is a later sequel, not e2.

Voice filter

✓ Chi ha detratto 0,00368 ETH da ogni giocatore?

✓ Il gioco / il contratto / il protocollo ha detratto … institutional Initiator

* Il tempo ha detratto 0,00368 ETH da ogni giocatore. not an Allocator

✓ 0,00368 ETH sono stati detratti da ogni giocatore dal gioco.

Milder than blame / creditMERIT’s Judge filter; same cell as creditFIN’s Allocator-ish filter. Players are Domain members, not Causees of an inner agentive verb.

Type A · fare wrap

✓ Non hanno fatto detrarre al gioco 0,00368 ETH da ogni giocatore? outer Neg denies causing · causee ≠ Domain · fare-par register

* Non hanno fatto detrarre al tempo 0,00368 ETH da ogni giocatore? weather still not inner Agent-ish

When fare wraps deduct, clitic climbing can diagnose the Type A union; the inner FROM geometry stays (Negative_Questions_Deduct §13.2 / §14). Deduct does not grow a fare-par by itself.

Underivables (Italian deduct)

  1. * Il gioco ha detratto 0,00368 da ogni giocatore. unit unbound
  2. * 0,00368 sono stati detratti ETH da ogni giocatore. Amount ≠ separate passive
  3. * ETH sono stati detratti 0,00368 da ogni giocatore. U ≠ separate passive
  4. * Ogni giocatore nel dungeon è stato detratto 0,00368 ETH. Domain ≠ ACC
  5. * Aver violato le regole della chat è stato detratto 0,00368 ETH. Reason ≠ object
  6. * Cosa ha detratto l’exchange 0,001 dell’utente? LBC · stranded n
  7. * Quanto ha detratto l’exchange ETH dell’utente? LBC · U stranded
  8. * A chi hanno detratto 0,00368 ETH? as Domain-ACC Domain needs da/a partire da
  9. * Il gioco ha detratto ogni giocatore con 0,00368 ETH. no con-cloth
  10. * Il gioco ha detratto 0,00368 ETH a ogni giocatore. as TO-increment a ≠ FROM default
  11. * Il tempo ha detratto 0,00368 ETH da ogni giocatore. Voice filter
  12. * L’exchange ha detratto acqua dall’utente. wrong-sort mass
  13. ✓ institution / contract as Agent-ish: Il contratto intelligente ha detratto 0,001 ETH dall’utente. Initiator fine

Group B packaging · this tick Italian closes Romance deduct

Group B (Spanish, French, Italian) is the packaging contrast set already used for WH and NegQ on deduct (§7.2 / §13.2). Same hierarchy as English deduct; different host of MeasureP/Domain Case. This tick is Italian deduct only — and it finishes the Group B Romance deduct line (EN+JA+ES+FR+IT). Spanish descontar / deducir is live at deduct-es.html. French déduire / prélever is live at deduct-fr.html. Italian primary is detrarre; watch FEE overlap on surface addebitare (already live as chargeFEE · Italian) — pointed as contrast, not merged. English deduct.html and Japanese deduct-ja.html are the live FROM twins. Italian creditFIN is the live TO dual — keep the polarity split.

Open items

Corpus filenames

Primary extracts for this micro-entry are Group B Romance packaging notes in the deduct WH and NegQ papers. Geometry is shared with the English lexical entry. Increment dual: Lexical_Entry_Credit_Argument_Structure / live credit-fin-it.html. FEE contrast: live charge-fee-it.html. Text extracts under /tmp/deduct_extracts/; DOCX originals under the Tritransitive lit tree. Chat extract: lit/grok-tritransitive/chats/16-wh-movement-denominations-in-deduct.md.

Series placement: Italian sense×language twin of English deduct EN micro-entry, Japanese deduct JA micro-entry, Spanish deduct ES micro-entry, and French deduct FR micro-entry. Feeds measuring companions Beyond Index 2 and the decrement cell next to creditFIN / chargeFEE / bet / earmark. Sister of live creditFIN · Italian — keep the FROM/TO polarity split. Closes Group B Romance deduct (EN+JA+ES+FR+IT). Does not invent ZH/NV elicitation. Speculation flagged.